IEM Aftermath – Dignitas still the best RMP in the World?

The finals are over and we can only blame YOU for not crossing your fingers hard enough. I’m kidding of course and a 2nd place at a Global Event that is easily comparable to Blizzcon competition-wise is amazing. The team also showed that they can improve as they took the edge over SK-Sansibar this time.
Overall I have to say that the finals were everything from boring to breathtaking, from disgusting to delicious. Of course because of the DDos attacks, the first day was unbearably long and that showed in some players play as well. While I don’t know how much the Korean jetlagged, SK-US was very tired which showed in their play.
After group phase many people were concerned that Korea would steamroll all over the competition taking first in their groups. As you might know, I was there as the team manager of coL.Black but of course I was there rooting for Team Dignitas as well. Fortunately or unfortunate, they didn’t meet in the tournament so it wasn’t really a problem to cheer for both of them. Nevertheless it was a heartbreaking experience for me. I was standing right behind Kalimist when they lost to x6tence. The curveball of running with a Druid instead of a Paladin proved to be a good idea.
Right after they had their game against mouz which played a similar comp but with a very different approach. The “monster cleave” as Kalimist called it, applied immense pressure by popping everything in the first couple of seconds of the match, using BoP on Cheap Shots. They were pretty much immune for the time they took to kill Hydra and they got 3-0′d pretty easily. I was a little concerned that the guys would let this get to them too much and even when SK Korea wasn’t too much of a problem. Fortunately they 3-0′d them pretty easily. If x6 would’ve gotten on more round of mouz or played better against SK-US, they would’ve been out before the tournament really started.
In the other group, coL.Black was at an overall match score of 3-1 with one 3-0 loss against EG, a close win 3-2 against SK Sansibar, 3-0 win vs iNNERFIRE, as well as a 3-1 win vs SK.EU in which they used Priest/Enhancement/Hunter. It all came down to the last match vs Button Bashers. As the games of the Beast Cleave were a little delayed, I was able to watch the other games. Basically, if either EG or SK Sansibar lost, coL.Black would’ve been at least third. Only if both of them won and the team around Twixz lost to Button Bashers, they would’ve been thrown out because of a three way tie breaker and they had the worst score. Before the match, I got to read SK.EU’s party chat and they didn’t really want to give EG a free win and iNNERFIRE certainly didn’t want to be 0-5′d in group stage.
As the last match of SK.EU was finished, Engimz wasn’t exactly amused about the outcome and coL.Black understood in that very second that they had to win. At this point they were 1-2 against Button Bashers. And of course it had to be them. Every time these teams met, it was important for the outcome of the tournament and this time it would be no different. At the score of 0-2, coL.Black who had that switched to ProtWar/Hunter/Paladin for the match, decided to train the Priest. They were able to tie it at 2-2 and the last map would decide the entire outcome of the tournament. If they win, they are first in their group at a score of 4-1 just like Button Bashers. If they lose, they are out because of the worse tie-breaker score. The game starts and Flexx is under heavy pressure and Toez has to blow Cooldowns fairly early. Numberone has to use PS as well though and it really comes down to who dies first. I remember seeing Numberones HP at 8k HP, no desperate prayer or battle master and Flexx sitting on his back only to get Cheap shot after and die. Later Orangemarmalade came to Flexx and said “I didn’t know that we kicked you out, sorry. But you won last time!”
As I heard that Team Dignitas had to fight SK Sansibar again, I felt a little sick to the stomach. Sanisbar in such an important situation… again? The series of course went to full length. I don’t recall much of the game other than the 1vs1 situation and the final match. Call it traumatic event if you want. When Flyn came into this 1vs1 with Noonia’s trinket and AMZ down, I thought he would try to reset as he had no sheep dr on him as well and just routinely finish it like the duel god he is. It was apparent that he wanted to win and he’d rather win it quickly. Quite unusual for Flynpr0c, not much popped up and he didn’t really crit as well and so he lost the 1vs1. In the final game, many people thought Moldran was the one to blame for the loss as he charged into the chamber but it was really a combination of things such as great CC by Flyn who kept both the Paladin and the DK outside. The smell of revenge was in the air and Moldran learned a lesson. Just as much as one can’t just walk into Mordor,
The semifinals pretty much like the the group stage matches against SK-Korea. Some people argue that mouz vs Dignitas and EG vs SK-Korea would’ve resulted in an all Korean final. Certainly, this would’ve been a much harder challenge for the western world. Dignitas played it really save after losing the first round and used the LOS of Dalaran in a way, that we mostly only see cleaves do. Kalimist got quite some restealth off and the Koreans were never really in kill range of anything. The game ended 4-1 and we were watching EG, who had just won against the “monster cleave” which already very few expected to happen. I was sitting in the middle of many top players who seemed all pretty sure that Button Bashers was running the wrong strategy and so was I. Train the Shaman worked great for iNNERFIRE in groupstage against EG as they almost beat them, going 2-0 up. Button Bashers lost the semi final and we were blaming it on too few practice against the comp or simply Korean pride who don’t want to just zerg one target. Little did we know that Button Bashers realized that this strategy was not going to work against the RLS that was sitting on this stage right now.
In the finals, we were sure that SHOO SHOO SHAMAN TRAIN was the way to go and it probably is against every other RLS. The idea of training the Priest in return and not helping the Shaman as much seemed to pay off. On top of that, the RLS that came together days before the event played just incredibly well. Azael later said that he never played so good in his life and I wholeheartedly agree. Every single one on that team was simply playing his A-Game and the performance that especially Tenderloin showed was jawdropping. In Cologne I felt upset because of the way Dignitas lost, getting RoV as the last map etc. This time, my mind bowed to EG’s performance as they were simply the better team this time.
After everything was said and done, we have to summarize that we know so much but at the same time so little about WoW. Almost everyone predicted Dignitas to be in the top 4. Almost no one had Evil Geniuses on their list. While RMP continues to be a strong line up, we found out that RLS can win tournaments which they did for the first time. Resto Shamans if played amazingly are viable, even to win a global championship (for the first time as well). No cleave in top 3.
Later we had a series of 10 matches of BB vs Dignitas on the B-stream and I can tell you that this was more than just good fun for shits and giggles. When BB was up 3-0 and lost the first match making it 3-1, Orange and Numberone were arguing loudly. Overall the clash of the best RMPs in the world was really amazing, even though I wished it would’ve been in a normal tournament setting, with audience and on the A-stream but the brackets didn’t allow for that. Dignitas took the series 6-4, but there were still no hard feelings on Button Bashers part.
We even had dinner with them which really entertaining. Between Flexx and Toez drinking competitions, I asked Orange if he liked the food. He nodded and responded with a brief “Yes”. I looked over to Numberone who was leaning over his chicken pizza, stuffing it in, not really looking like he enjoyed it. I asked Orange if Numberone liked the meal and he looked over to him as well. As Orange turned back to me he went: “Yes, yes….. Maybe” and I almost drowned on my sip of coke. Overall I have to say every player I met at the tournament were really nice guys and I liked talking to them a lot. I found that for example Realz and I shared a lot of views on the game and I really felt a little sad when I left the “hotel” yesterday morning. I also caught a cold from Twixz, who on top of that also forgot both his cellphone and a shirt in the room.
I apologize if this reads like a teenage diary, but I’m still emotionally agitated by all this excitement and disappointment. I guess, if you want an objective description of what it was like, you come to Cebit next year on your own. Of course some parts were rather “meh” such as the hotel or the long breaks because of the Chinese DDos attacks, but overall I have to say it was really worth it.
I will pick the new writers most likely tomorrow, so stay tuned for that. Yiska out.
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about 6 months ago
winning in a mirror doesn’t make dignitas (or complexity red) the better RMP, only the better RMP at RMP mirrors. button bashers is so far ahead of every other RMP against every other setup (except RLS, which col red has way more practice against and can farm). training the shaman on RLS hasn’t been a good strategy since locks started going UA…
about 6 months ago
“training the shaman on RLS hasn’t been a good strategy since locks started going UA…”
Dr.Realz suggested differently
about 6 months ago
he’s really bad against RMP, he is 1-20 with complexity.red
complexity.red beats every RLS but not that hard =]
about 6 months ago
I don’t think the point was to say Dignitas > BB because of the series following the finals.
Good entry as usual Yiska, loved the picture of hydra.
about 6 months ago
why are they better then? not better vs anything else
bb just 3-0s sansibar and hydra’s team struggles heh =[ they’re good but bb must know something
about 6 months ago
Rofl, Dignitas haven’t ever been “the best rmp in the world” that title belongs to button bashers, not only have they shown they’re on a completely different skill level when they’re on form in other tournaments, but Dignitas also had much easier teams to face than BB did.
The only thing I can see hydras RMP titled as is the best RMP in Europe, which they currently are. But world? No way, don’t be stupid.
about 6 months ago
As the “?” indicates I put this up for question. Don’t pretend there is no point to argue. Dignitas both placed higher and won the RMP mirror while Button Bashers did better against most other line ups.
about 6 months ago
Pretty sure BB would’ve gone to the finals if they had easier teams like Dignitas and were on-form it was obvious they were having a bad tournament, both Dignitas and BB went out to the same team so you can’t judge it on “place” at all- and talking about RMP mirrors is retarded as hell since not only is it based on RNG but BB were having their worst tournament so far and they still put up a close match whilst being weaker vs rmp than any other comp.
Also you said “Dignitas still the best RMP in the World?” implying they are or ever have been known as the “best in the world” which is a stupid thing to say considering they’ve never been known as the best outside of Europe. You have to be very very biased or stupid to not see the synergy and skill difference between BB and Dignitas, so please refrain from implying that Dignitas are or ever have been the best RMP in the world because it isn’t a discussion and only fanboys will be with you on this one. People will a clue will see it’s a stupid question to ask not only because it’s “who’s better than who” but because dignitas haven’t done anything to show they’re the best world.
about 6 months ago
I bet you play a DNAW class
about 6 months ago
News just in! Korean fanboys butthurt by inability to read blog titles. Chaos insues
about 6 months ago
Honestly I can’t decide.
about 6 months ago
News just in, i am stupid and have no idea wtf is going on, hey guys.
about 6 months ago
wanna bang?
about 6 months ago
Agree with Rices #8.
“Are Dignitas still the best RMP in the World?” Definetly they are not (yet).
Anyway it was great if you won BB 6-4, imho it was more fun than getting 2st in world finals. Gratz you. I wish I could see that match
Can add also that following Inflame in proclamation to be best Warlock/RMP/Priest/whatever in the world is wrong way
To Hydra: if Rices/me would be korean fanboy/girl, he/she wouldn’t be here posting on your blog, definetly
about 6 months ago
I think Dignitas is better in mirrors but Button Bashers is an overall better team because they consistently do better versus other comps than Dignitas does.
Does anyone have the video of BB vs Dignitas? I really wanted to see it come down to them in the finals and I did not get to see it on stream.
about 6 months ago
I think they will upload the B stream movies next week
about 6 months ago
You’d better of I’ll end your days.
Looking forward to it.
about 6 months ago
And /facepalm on Yiska’s “cute mammal” pics series..
about 6 months ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you just claim you weren’t butthurt?
about 6 months ago
Will you dare?
But seriously, I personally got bored of them. Are there anyone else? Donno. But you can make a poll
about 6 months ago
HATERS GONNA H8
about 6 months ago
haha what dodgin said,
about 6 months ago
button bashers have the advantage of all three players looking exactly the same so you never know who youre focussing.
they remind me of the chipmunks.
about 6 months ago
lol
about 6 months ago
Explain this please since once the playoffs started BB only played one team, a team they already played in groupstage.
about 6 months ago
BB beat sk.sansibar 3-0 in group stage (also They beat mousesports 3-1 at IEM Asia) so i mean if BB didnt match with EG, they could go to finals easily
about 6 months ago
dignitas were 3-1 up against sansibar and could’ve been 4-0 if flyn decided to reset the 1v1 fight against noonia, then they got ring of valor to make it 3-2 they then realised they had to tunnel hydra as HARD as they could something they didn’t even try against BB. Mousesports also didn’t play BM hunter vs bb afaik at iem asia ; )
about 5 months ago
I mean we can speculate and “what if” until our fingers bleed on the keyboard. In every sport it comes down to heads up matchups. Who beat who can only get you so far. You can’t discredit a heads-up matchup win just because you think BB plays better against other comps than RMP. Imo mirror comps are the best way to determine skill in this game, or RNG.